A Philosophical and Spiritual Conversation with Betty part three

 Betty: Then how can we know about nonexistence if everything we experience can only be real?

The Philosopher: Our consciousness somehow gives us the ability to use the idea of nothing to indirectly recognize nonexistence even though we never directly experience it. Nonexistence is like a black hole in reality that we can never directly see, but we know is there.

Betty: And that means we can only experience that which is real?

The Philosopher: Everything we experience can only be real just as we experience it. The fact that we can never directly experience unreality means that all we do experience must be real. It is quite impossible for human consciousness to directly experience anything that is not real. In the case of unreality, we can only use the real idea of nothing to indirectly indicate the nonexistence in a false combination even though all false combinations must always comprise real experiences and ideas.

Betty: What do you mean when you say that unreality cannot be directly experienced? How do we know that it exists if we never experience it?

The Philosopher: Unreality actually does not exist at all. That is why it is not real. It is the opposite of reality. Reality exists. Unreality does not exist. Human consciousness has been given the power, through the use of logic, to determine the real existence of certain objects that we can never directly experience. For example, physicists have deduced that certain sub-atomic particles exist even though they have never directly experienced them. They deduce that they exist because of tracks that they leave on photographic plates. In a similar way, we humans use the real idea of nothing to deduce that unreality does not exist, at least in any positive and creative way that we can understand, even though we never directly experience it.

Betty: But how did we obtain this power of our minds to make such a logical deduction?

The Philosopher: We humans were created to experience only reality. One of the true combinations of ideas that we experience in our minds happens to be the power of reason and logic. Logic is a real combination of ideas that allows us to make deductions about the real existence of things we never directly experience or which are hidden in experience. We can also use the power of logic to deduce that false combinations of real ideas and experiences equal nothing which also indirectly indicates the nonexistence of unreality. But we never seem to make this a conscious deduction. It is always a subconscious deduction.

Betty: Then true and real combinations of real ideas and experiences also exists?

The Philosopher: Absolutely. All systems in our world that produce a desired and beneficial result are true combinations of real ideas and experiences. We can name thousands of such systems such as a system of justice, a system of laws and government, clothes, houses, medicine, and even our own lives. The trouble with our true and real systems is that false and destructive systems often attach themselves to them.

Betty: So how does the real idea of nothing relate to such real systems?

The Philosopher: Whenever we humans use our minds to invent true systems of real ideas that produce a desired and beneficial result, we also use the real idea of nothing to exclude from such systems any ideas or experiences that will not work in those systems. For example, if an architect designs a skyscraper to be built solely from steel and concrete, he excludes all wood from his system by equating it with nothing. This exclusion does not mean that he considers wood to be nonexistent. He simply mentally equates wood with the idea of nothing in order to exclude it from the system he has invented.

Betty: So true and useful combinations of ideas and experiences exist which are beneficial systems, and false systems also exist which always comprise real ideas and experiences even though the combination itself always equals the idea of nothing by which we indirectly and logically deduce that unreality does not exist, at least in any meaningful and positive way.

The Philosopher: That is correct. When we say that something is not real, we subconsciously mean that the idea of nothing has annulled reality in that false system even though we can be conscious of the real idea of nothing, but we cannot be directly conscious of the unreality. We mean that the false combination itself cannot be real, never the the real ideas and experiences that always compose false systems.

Betty: But if our minds are geared to be conscious only of reality, how did we ever become conscious of the fact that the idea of nothing can indirectly indicate the nonexistence of reality in false combinations?

The Philosopher: Our minds were created to be able to tell the difference between something and nothing, both of which are real. Since consciousness happens to be the only known power which is capable of making this distinction, then no consciousness, which consciousness means life itself, could have evolved from a consciousless universe. Consciousness must come first. There can be no reality without consciousness.

Betty: Please explain.

The Philosopher: In a universe without consciousness, no means exist which can tell the difference between something and nothing. In such a case, reality cannot exist, and absolutely nothing happens without reality. Such a consciousless universe would be in a permanent state of chaos; that is, a state of absolute nothingness. Certain scientists have discovered that this state of chaos can actually exist, but they call it a superposition in quantum mechanics or a singularity in cosmology. Scientists have also discovered that our universe happens to be filled with what they call virtual particles which actually exist and non-exist at the same time. These virtual particles indicate the consciousless part of our universe. Consciousness exists to separate something from nothing in order to establish reality.

Betty: But if our lives and consciousness could never have evolved in a consciousless universe, then how did we obtain our lives and consciousness?